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But now I've read the continuing adventres of the 'busgate goths' my opinion is currently that they are fucking nutters.

Thank you, [livejournal.com profile] ninjagirl, for the links to their myspace pages

Oh dear.

I really hope it's all an elaborate joke...

Date: 2008-01-25 09:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crazymeandave.livejournal.com
"jobless dani, who is on the dole"

good old tautological sun journalists...

Date: 2008-01-25 04:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jaketherat.livejournal.com
Not all jobless people are on the dole, some of them sell their stories to the papers drugs for a living!

Date: 2008-01-25 06:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kumimonster.livejournal.com
others try fetish modeling!

Date: 2008-01-25 09:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] halocaustic.livejournal.com
Yeah, I wish the media would stop giving those attention whores so much coverage. No wonder some of the population think us alt.types are weird - the sensationalisation of this doesn't help.

I wonder if she'd be so happy to act like a pet if she was made to piss and crap outside - I think not. It's just an excuse for her to be lazy. Let's see if he still loves his pet in 10 years time when her metabolism slows down and she gains 300lbs from 'eating and sleeping lots'. I'm so cyncial...

...and what a susprise that he doesn't have a job and is on the dole. He doesn't seem medically unfit (maybe in the head though?) so he should get off his ass and start contributing to the society he so desperately wants to accept his behaviour.

Date: 2008-01-25 09:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] emmelinemay.livejournal.com
Assuming they got paid for this article, they're making *some* money.

But yeah, it doesn't look good when you are basically saying 'we don't want to do anything other than be together and act a bit weird'. It gives a really skewed image of many people who have al alt lifestyle, or have a dom/sub lifestyle relationship who still *gasp* manage to be actual members of society.

I'm quite sure a number of people I know would shock their employers, should their employers find out what they do in the privacy of their own home...

It's not the lifestyle that bothers me, really. I loved 'Secretary' - it seemed to be to be an unconventional love story about two misfits that find each other. That may indeed be the case here, but they really aren't doing themselves any favours in the way they are coming across.

I can see goths, subs/doms and much of the alt scene going *facepalm* right about now.

Date: 2008-01-25 10:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] halocaustic.livejournal.com
Indeed. It's the fact they feel the need to get themselves plastered all over the papers that bothers me - reinforcing a some of society's view that goths are weirdos :/

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Date: 2008-01-25 09:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] glamgothruthy.livejournal.com
in the fetish worls this would be lightweight, but like the comment says - they are consenting adults - so what?

Date: 2008-01-25 10:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] emmelinemay.livejournal.com
I have no problem with what they want to do.

Perhaps I am being judgemental, but honestly, if a couple wanted to say 'hey, we have a sub/dom relationship, and we think it's great, society should accept us' then they are going about it in totally the wrong way. They are making themselves look like utter twats.

I hope they are getting paid for all the newspaper coverage. I imagine they'll be on a few TV shows next. If they manage their money carefully, they'll be able to life of it for a while. Maybe that's why they're doing it, they want a holiday...

(My first boyfriend's best friend's sister was the girl who streaked at the snooker many years ago. She did it so she could sell her story to the papers and use the money to pay for a holiday)

Date: 2008-01-25 10:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] glamgothruthy.livejournal.com
i think they are young - and when your young your full of 'look at me' and 'i'm different and i want to upset people' - or perhaps that was just me...

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Date: 2008-01-25 04:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nils.livejournal.com
They've already started making TV appearances...

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Date: 2008-01-25 10:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kumimonster.livejournal.com
lightweight?
probably in their case!

but then most people dont go so far as the Benson's do
(www.petgirls.com)

(very NWS!)

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hmmm...
if she were a properly trained pet, she shouldn't be allowed on the furniture like that!

(she also can't seem to figure out if she's a dog or a cat!)


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Date: 2008-01-25 09:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alabastamasta.livejournal.com
Yeah- talk about making a situation worse....

Date: 2008-01-25 09:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] emmelinemay.livejournal.com
Exactly. Whatever they want to get up to is fine by me, but you can't just go WE ARE SPESHUL SNOFLAKES! SOCIETY MUST ACCEPT US!

and expect everyone to go, oh, ok.

People are going to see it as a kink, and people don't want to be subjected to people doing sexual things in their face.

As it were...

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Date: 2008-01-25 10:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cookwitch.livejournal.com
Oh I don't know. She's happy, he's happy, what's the harm? Many others play out their 'scenes' in public, but just not in such an obvious way.

Date: 2008-01-25 10:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] emmelinemay.livejournal.com
See my other comments. It's not what they do per se.

Date: 2008-01-25 10:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] emmelinemay.livejournal.com
I still think they are nutters though. Just a personal opinion. If *I* think they are nutters, I dread to think what your average sun reader is going to think.

Hmm. On reflection, they'll probably think 'woooorghm a girl that does everything I tell her? where do I get one of them?' and goth girls will get EVEN MORE ABUSE from fucking idiots on the street than they already do...

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Date: 2008-01-25 10:43 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] juliet
I think the obviousness *does* matter, though. If you're doing a scene such that uninvolved bystanders know it's going on, then IMO that's out of order.

Date: 2008-01-25 10:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kumimonster.livejournal.com
nutters or more like 'hey-look-at-how-nutters-we-are" nutters.

commented above.

Date: 2008-01-25 10:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] emmelinemay.livejournal.com
I think that's probably be what bothers me! It's not what they do, it's the LOOK! LOOK! WE'RE DIFFERENT!! LOOOOOOK! LOOOOOOOOOOOOOK!!! ARE YOU SHOCKED? ARE YOU? ARE YOU???

LOOK AT ME

WHY YOU NOT LOOK AT ME

sort of thing

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Date: 2008-01-25 10:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blonde-venus.livejournal.com
I think she is just young and silly, although he is old enough to know better, really.

Date: 2008-01-25 11:03 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] canudiglett
People like them are the reason the rest of us goths get stick! I wouldn't let them on my bus!

Date: 2008-01-25 11:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sera-squeak.livejournal.com
*yawn*

Getting fed up with them now.

Date: 2008-01-25 01:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] goetia.livejournal.com
Have you seen their myspace profiles yet? So funny.

Date: 2008-01-25 01:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] emmelinemay.livejournal.com
I don't think I want to...

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Date: 2008-01-25 03:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] not-a-nicegirl.livejournal.com
Granted she is setting back the feminist movement, but I think I'd be more like leave the silly kids alone, if they actually had jobs and weren't relying on the taxpayers dollar to fund their little BDSM-like exhibition. What if it were ironic performance art? (Which it clearly isn't because they seem to be operating on a shared half of a brain cell). How much taxpayer money is being spent on her dog collar? To participate in society, and not be a drain, people need to have a baseline from which to operate. If they hate society so much why don't they live in the woods and off the land instead of accepting money from the very people they are so scornful of.

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