You couch all this very much in a Men Versus Women way which I'm not really keen on. Yes, most institutions continue to be ones that service traditionally male ways of being and doing. But where does this power come from? Women make up 50% of society. This state of affairs has been authored with explicit or tacit female approval. Just as men can use institutional power against other men, women have proven to be very adept at supporting these structures and shitting on their own sex.
You argument surely presupposes here that the less educated wouldn't complain about the same things. But this is so vastly untrue on a local and global scale where women are complaining about the same issues.
That's a bit of a leap. I was specifically referring to the UK context in my posts on this, although there are structural parallels elsewhere. I'm not sure what you're suggesting here. I'm not being cheeky here..I'm just back from a holiday and I am knackered :)
It seems like you're suggesting that I think uneducated (inevitably foreign?!) women are not capable of mobilising around these issues, or are not subject to them. I am not. However, I am a bit skeptical about the idea of a global sisterhood. I think it is best to focus on the specific contexts that cause problems. I don't think the situation of women in e.g Russia or Nepal (both countries in which I have some degree of learningz on the subject of women's rights) are comparable to that which you might say is typical of the UK. In fact, as I've said in other comments, I think it is crucial to burrow further in exploring the whys and wherefores of such crimes, as I believe motivations and justifications (and thus causes) differ significantly in many cases, even if the negative impact on the victim is the same.
I really think you need to consider the role of women in perpetuating systems where their peers can be abuses so easily. It doesn't matter if they are co-opted into institutional oppressionz by virtue of growing up in the system. The same holds true for men. Personally I think everyone suffers from misogyny on some level, even if that is invisible to the most ardent offenders.
Anyway..I apologise if I seem a bit scatterbrained. :)
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Date: 2008-01-31 09:03 pm (UTC)You couch all this very much in a Men Versus Women way which I'm not really keen on. Yes, most institutions continue to be ones that service traditionally male ways of being and doing. But where does this power come from? Women make up 50% of society. This state of affairs has been authored with explicit or tacit female approval. Just as men can use institutional power against other men, women have proven to be very adept at supporting these structures and shitting on their own sex.
You argument surely presupposes here that the less educated wouldn't complain about the same things. But this is so vastly untrue on a local and global scale where women are complaining about the same issues.
That's a bit of a leap. I was specifically referring to the UK context in my posts on this, although there are structural parallels elsewhere. I'm not sure what you're suggesting here. I'm not being cheeky here..I'm just back from a holiday and I am knackered :)
It seems like you're suggesting that I think uneducated (inevitably foreign?!) women are not capable of mobilising around these issues, or are not subject to them. I am not. However, I am a bit skeptical about the idea of a global sisterhood. I think it is best to focus on the specific contexts that cause problems. I don't think the situation of women in e.g Russia or Nepal (both countries in which I have some degree of learningz on the subject of women's rights) are comparable to that which you might say is typical of the UK. In fact, as I've said in other comments, I think it is crucial to burrow further in exploring the whys and wherefores of such crimes, as I believe motivations and justifications (and thus causes) differ significantly in many cases, even if the negative impact on the victim is the same.
I really think you need to consider the role of women in perpetuating systems where their peers can be abuses so easily. It doesn't matter if they are co-opted into institutional oppressionz by virtue of growing up in the system. The same holds true for men. Personally I think everyone suffers from misogyny on some level, even if that is invisible to the most ardent offenders.
Anyway..I apologise if I seem a bit scatterbrained. :)