deviblue is evil

[emmelinemay]

She sent me this:



saying 'i expect to see you in this outfit next whitby'.

damn damn damn damn damn damn.

where'd you reckon i could get an outfit like that for as small amount of money as passible?

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[yaruar.livejournal.com]

The only tricky bit will be the breastplate.
THat will take a bit of hunting ;-)

[aeia.livejournal.com]

Hmm.. I will forward it onto the bed making crew.. he also makes jackets and we've been thinking about making corsets.

[deviblue.livejournal.com]

hmmm...there is that place that makes chestplates.....or you could possibly do a home vacformiing without the vacumm.

easy way -
get some gummi parcel tape and take a molding of the front of your body (if you wanna do this I can give you more details how to)
make sure its VERY sturdy and take a plastercast from the inside with plaster bandage
peel of the gummi tape
using clay or platercine or something, recreate the chestplate
do the gummi strip thing again
do the paster bandage bit again

then you have a form to take the plate from
all you need then is a sheet of plastic only needs to be about 1 - 2 mm thick (plasticard or similar) and a heat gun/hot hairdryer to soften the plastic over the plaster form (you might need gloves or a cloth to do it)

then its just a matter of trimming the shape...sanding the edges to make em smooth and using something like velco to attach it to you....if you lightly sand the surfac you can pritty much paint it with anything, car body paint could work well and you'd easily find that dull metal colour

if you need any tips on that just ask

hugs xx

[pogtanius.livejournal.com]

Take up metal working.

[allezbleu.livejournal.com]

check my site for the link to legend armour who did mine quite, quite cheaply.

[emmelinemay.livejournal.com]

that actual sounds fun. i may ask Sabrina about it....

[emmelinemay.livejournal.com]

i might do that!

i've decided life isn't worth living if i don't own that outfit.

[emmelinemay.livejournal.com]

that all sounds extremely complicated.

i could probably make a lightweight mold/base with gypsum i reckon. then cover it with paper mache and then paint it? it wouldn't be metal though :(

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[pogtanius.livejournal.com]

Well if you can make a mask from resin then I'm sure the body armout wouldn't be much more difficult.

[emmelinemay.livejournal.com]

that would be fab! thank you!

[yaruar.livejournal.com]

Ohh metal.

Mmmmmm

[quercus.livejournal.com]

Trylon 01933 664275 sell a range of this stuff for school craft lessons, and for the live-roleplay crowd. The usual material is heat-formed plastazote, a lightweight soft foam.

[deviblue.livejournal.com]

Glad to have been of service ;)

[emmelinemay.livejournal.com]

but i want to wear METAL

:D

[lee-chaos.livejournal.com]

...then I can't recommend the guys who did Mel's armour highly enough. It really is *stunning* stuff; very reasonably price, exceptionally well made, and Martin is a nice guy to do business with

Makes me go all funny seeing Mz Bleu stomping round the lounge in it.... %¬$

[darktigerlily.livejournal.com]

Wow, that picture just looks like you! :)

[deathboy.livejournal.com]

Aye, I was just about to mention mel's post:

http://www.livejournal.com/talkread.bml?journal=allezbleu&itemid=26028

... it does indeed look "the shit".

[emmelinemay.livejournal.com]

aw :)

flattered!

[emmelinemay.livejournal.com]

i'd rather have the body part in metal though.

i can probably get the pants from allycat...

[emmelinemay.livejournal.com]

i shall certainly be mailing him to find out if it's possible...

[quercus.livejournal.com]

Oh, well we do that too - it's just a pain to wear.

Plate, scale or mail ?

[emmelinemay.livejournal.com]

um. i don't know! whatever i can get, that doesn't cost too much, that looks like the pciture!!

[quercus.livejournal.com]

Well that picture looks like terrible armour (in a getting-poked-with-sharp-things way), but good to wear. The cuirass in two side pieces would give good articulation. You could have the centre plate, or omit it, depending on how you feel - no-one would notice.

Don't have a backplate. You need something wide and elasticky here, to give you all the stretch you normally have in clothing but you won't have in the plates.

Making it wearable for more than an hour is hard. You can either pad it underneath, which makes it even more unwieldy, or you can be very careful about the weight of the stuff, its articulation and how it's supported.

Things to make it out of are:


Steel - you'll hate wearing this, but we can do it in nicer colours than boring shiny silver (look at Andrea's lizards (http://codesmiths.com/shed/furniture/andrea_bed.htm)).


Stainless steel - forget it - it's a nightmare to shape


Aluminium - Easier to make, lighter to wear


Copper - That would look weird !


Fibreglass - Dead easy, not too hard to make it look nicely metallic either.


Polypropylene - Popular with the re-enactors, because it's lightweight and resistant to being hit with sticks.


Anthony Bryant has a nice site on making repro Japanese armour from plastic sheet (http://www.sengokudaimyo.com/katchu/0.Katchu.html). Might give you some ideas on what's involved. Japanese armour is a real slog - hundreds of tiny bits, but something like a Hotoke Dô (http://www.sengokudaimyo.com/katchu/06.do.html) is closer to what we're talking about than the lamellar stuff.

[emmelinemay.livejournal.com]

ok - in that case i defer to your superior knowledge - what would you recomenned?

and what do you reckon on the thigh thingies?

[quercus.livejournal.com]

I have no superior knowledge - I just make stuff. If you still do Usenet, you might like to try alt.armourers.

Unless there's some subtle manga reference going on, I guess you don't need to wear exactly this armour - more like a Whitby version, which is OK to wear for an evening, OK to dance and drink in, doesn't need the otaku-summoning Button of Power on the left kneecap, like it had in the comic. Do you need leg pieces at all ? Big wrist cuffs ? A helmet (although sprayed motorbike helmets are OK for Daft Punk, they're a bit obvious) ? Does it need to be angle grinder proof (are you actually going to grind yourself on stage) ?

The Legends people seem like a decent source for some stuff (how do you feel about the pricing ?) They're probably the people with most experience of building helmets.

Maybe you should do some design work ? Have a think about how complex it all is, and what it costs to buy bits in. How much do you want / can you afford ? What will your your armour look like ? (because to be honest, two bean tins and a bit of tinfoil will still turn heads).

My inclination would be to make beaten metal plate body armour out of aluminium (for lightness), and sew it to a one-piece undergarment. Apply fishnets to garnish. Similar tech for calves and for gauntlets, sewn to fingerless cycling gloves (you need your drinking hands free). You may already have boots of such clumpiness that you don't need any leg armour. I wouldn't armour the thighs, as I think you want the freedom to move - just add a metal peplum if you want. Welding is a little trickier on aluminium, but we could always use it as an excuse to buy a TIG 8-)

One way to do this might be to start with a plaster body mould. A very easy step beyond that would be a fibreglass cast, with metal foil as a finish. Wouldn't sound right when tapped though.

[emmelinemay.livejournal.com]

wow - your are really helpful, cheers!

i quite like the idea of being able to be beaten with sticks and feel nothing. RAR! and the helmet is the least important part - i have one alreay (resin) i can modify to wear, or use it as a starting point to make my own (that doesn't have to be metal). i have already though about the possibiltiy of laser pointers - that's how sad and obsessed i am ;)

i'm not sure how much i was expecting to pay. lots probably.

yup - i have boots! the arm things would be nice, but complex, as if i was going to do that properly, i'd want the full flipup flash LED job. if not, i have things that look the part.

thigh wise - my thighs are evil and the world need to be protected from them. what is a "metal peplum" ? bear in mind, i have never done live roleplay, and never wanted proper armour before - i can make the mask only because i did a performing arts degree and had to make some for that!

design wise, i shall need help. because i could not draw to save my life.

My inclination would be to make beaten metal plate body armour out of aluminium (for lightness), and sew it to a one-piece undergarment sounds like a plan...how do you sew aluminium then?

[quercus.livejournal.com]

i quite like the idea of being able to be beaten with sticks and feel nothing.

Try vodka.

i have already though about the possibiltiy of laser pointers

Cheapest place is eBay (http://search-desc.ebay.co.uk/search/search.dll?MfcISAPICommand=GetResult&query=laser+pointer&query2=laser+pointer&search_option=1&srchdesc=y&exclude=&category0=&ebaytag1=ebayctry&ebaytag1code=3&ebaycurr=999&minPrice=&maxPrice=&SortProperty=MetaEndSort&st=&pt=0) (dirt cheap - see if you can find ones with image projector heads (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=801619564)).

They do helmets (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=737694567) too.

yup - i have boots! the arm things would be nice, but complex, as if i was going to do that properly, i'd want the full flipup flash LED job.

I was thinking of an embedded GPRS web browser (http://www.handspring.co.uk/products/treo270/index.asp)

thigh wise - my thighs are evil and the world need to be protected from them.

Thighs are hard to armour. They curve around too much and aren't one shape when they move. It's really hard to make plate thigh armour you can sit down in.

what is a "metal peplum" ?

Think eighties ra-ra skirt (ask yer granny). Sticky-out flange over your hips. You could dangle some chain mail from it.

how do you sew aluminium then?

Bloody big sewing machine. Either that, or the several litres of purple rivets I have in the shed.

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[deathboy.livejournal.com]

alreet, pet - just thought to ask... any of your filthy lot thinking of coming to our gig?

Would be a grin to see you, and we could actually show you what we're like live and all...

Plus, you could bring a 'kin CD of yours with you for me to purchase... as scandalously not done on the wednesday of whitby before I had to go..... ;)

:D

[emmelinemay.livejournal.com]

i'm planning to come along - i think John is as well - mail him vision@interlock-music.co.uk to get him to bring along a CD- i don't have any at home. sorry about the wednesday - we decided to go home on tuesday!

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[deathboy.livejournal.com]

will do - ta, luvvy :D